Here's a question. When in English we use "chick" for a baby bird,
which of these two roots do you think more likely to be the source:
1) words for small, such as Aragonese: chicote
and Turan: kiçik, Turkish: küçük tr(tr),Turkmen: kiçi
or
2) Words related to birds such as in Greek and Latin, eg for swans and
storks, cycnus and cicones.
Or are these also connected?
Also, in connection with the "pu-" words I note that in languages such as Spanish use "piu, piu, piu" as the sounds of small birds, the equivalent of English "tweet, tweet, tweet."
The words sound like the quality, just as "gar" is a big sound, a gargantuan sound.
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Andis Kaulins replied:
Take a look at the Bantu words for chicken or fowl at
http://language.psy.auckland.ac.nz/bantu/word.php?v=160
ID | Language | Nominal Prefix | Radical | Gram. | Genre | Cognacy | Annotation | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
01929. | Asu G.22 |
| kúkú | N | 9 | ||||
01494. | Basaa A.43a |
| kóp | N | 9, 10 | ||||
01075. | Bemba M.42 | íŋ | kókó | N | |||||
00641. | Bukusu E.31c |
| gòxò | N | 9, 10 | ||||
00164. | Kinyamwezi F22 | ŋ/ŋ | gɔ̀kɔ́ | N | 9, 10 | ||||
02373. | Koyo C.24 | tsótsó | N | 1a-2 | |||||
03197. | Lega D.25 |
| kókó | N | 9, 10 | ||||
02789. | Rumanyo (Gciriku) K.38 |
| kûkù | N | 9, 10 | ||||
03590. | Tswana S.30 | kʊ́kʊ́ | N | 9 | |||||
04017. | Yao P.21 | dì- | wìíwì | N | 5 |
It is very clear, based on the Bantu evidence above, that the base word for chicken must belong to the very oldest of human terms, as it is virtually near to identical everywhere in the Bantu languages.
Compare the Bantu with the German Küken viz. Kücken for chicken viz. chick.
The Koyo tsotso might compare to our own tweet-tweet, and an onomopoetic sound origin for chick is not excluded in view of German put, put meaning "chuck, chuck" in English.
As for your second question about pu- words for the birds,
in Latvian, birds are putni, whence German Pute "turkey-hen" or Puter "turkey-cock".
The root here is I think the original root for "flight", as suggested by the Bantu words for "to fly (to)" (palido means "to fly about" in Latvian and par- means "up, above"), to which compare aero//*aelo in Ancient Greek meaning "to fly". Here are the Bantu terms for "to fly":
01923. | Asu G.22 | pàràrìkà | V | ||||
01488. | Basaa A.43a | pùùɛ̀ | V | ||||
01071. | Bemba M.42 | pàlààl | V | ||||
00157. | Kinyamwezi F22 | làlá | V | ||||
03191. | Lega D.25 | léŋgà | V | ||||
02781. | Rumanyo (Gciriku) K.38 | tûkà | V | ||||
03584. | Tswana S.30 | fʊ̀fà | V | ||||
04012. | Yao P.21 | guluka | V |
Terms for flight in my opinion are related to the concept of "air" or "outside", in Latvian (g)aiss, gaisā and ārā, to which some of the Bantu terms below for "outside" are similar
02055. | Asu G.22 | n | zè | N | 9 | ||
01595. | Basaa A.43a | tán | |||||
01182. | Bemba M.42 | ín | sé | N | |||
00761. | Bukusu E.31c | é- ßù- | làfù | N | 23, 14 | ||
00283. | Kinyamwezi F22 | hààn | zɛ̀ɛ́ | N | 16+9 | ||
00284. | Kinyamwezi F22 | hììb | ààlà | N | 16+5 | lit. at the clearing | |
02468. | Koyo C.24 | nʤ̑éè | N | 9 | |||
03297. | Lega D.25 | gà mbʊ́gà | Loc | open space : mbʊ́gà 9, 10 | |||
02903. | Rumanyo (Gciriku) K.38 | pàmbânʤ̑è | Adv | ||||
02904. | Rumanyo (Gciriku) K.38 | pànʤ̑è | Adv | ||||
03699. | Tswana S.30 | ǹtɬɛ́ | N | 9 | |||
04125. | Yao P.21 | pààsá | Adv | ||||
04126. | Yao P.21 | kùùsá | Adv |
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